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  • Best Years For Older Used 27-5L / 29-5E And Determining Value

    Hello friends,

    My wife and I are just starting to get serious about purchasing our first fifth wheel and we have narrowed down our choices between the 27-5L and possibly the 29-5E. We like the floor plans with the rear kitchen, but we are still open to suggestion in case you may have good reason to recommend the rear lounge layout of the 29-5T

    I would love to have the extra room afforded by the master bed slide in the 29-5 series over the traditional walk-around style layout of the 27-5, although this being my first fifth wheel I also realize I would likely appreciate the slightly smaller stature and weight of the 27-5 when it comes to learning to maneuver in tight locations and campground restrictions, etc...

    Are there certain years I should look for and/or avoid? So far I have been focusing my interest on trailers ranging in age from 2003 to 2010 which seem to all be fairly similar in design and price range depending on included features and overall condition.

    Another question I have is regarding determining a used trailers value. Are NADA guidelines fairly close to accurate, or is there a better method to appraising a used but clean AF trailer?

    Please forgive all the noob questions. I have been doing my best to research these and other similar topics online, but it gets overwhelming having to sift through pages of information that does not seem to relate to my specific topics or address my questions although I am certain someone has asked before me... where does one start?!?

    That is exactly how I found this forum and the reason I was excited to join it! Lots of great info in here and many friendly like-minded members willing to share their honest input, I appreciate that!

    Thanks in advance
    Proud Second Owner 2004 AF27-5L
    2018 Ram 3500 4x4 6.7 Cummins/Aisin/4.10 DRW

  • #2
    Welcome to the forum...

    The 27-5L and the 29-5T are both excellent 5'rs.

    We selected the 29-5T due to the expansive rear window, double rear recliner seating and being able to order the king-sized bed.

    The 29-5T also can be ordered / retrofitted with a fireplace (not available on the 27-5L). We use it much more than we thought we would. The fireplace allows electric heat while on shore power - without using propane or having to use portable heaters.

    I recommend a 1-ton diesel to pull the 29-5T. We have over 80,000 miles on our 4-year old 29-5T, and it has served us well with no serious issues.

    The "best year models" is hard to define. It all boils down to the model(s) you can live in and how well they were maintained. A newer neglected RV can't compare to an older well maintained RV.

    Check out the buyer's check-list (in the download area). That will give you good information on what to look for and/or what to avoid.
    Travel Blog: www.rocklinroamers.wordpress.com

    2015 Chevrolet Silverado 3500HD: SRW, Duramax / Allison 6.6L Turbo-Diesel, Extended Cab, Long Bed, 4x4, Reese 16K Hitch, 50gal In-Bed Fuel Tank (85 gals total)

    2016 Arctic Fox 29-5T: Six-Point Leveling System, Fireplace, Two A/C's, Two Honda EU2000i Generators, TST "507" Tire Monitoring System, King-Size Bed, Progressive 'Hard-Wired' 50amp Surge Protector, 16gal Water Heater, Slide-Toppers, Power-Reel, 'G Rated' Sailun Tires.

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    • #3
      Thanks Dave!

      I will be sure to check out the “buyers check-list” thanks for the heads up.

      BTW we are practically neighbors... I was just over your way looking at a 29-5E in Loomis


      Proud Second Owner 2004 AF27-5L
      2018 Ram 3500 4x4 6.7 Cummins/Aisin/4.10 DRW

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      • #4
        Welcome to the forum
        We had a 25-Y for 4+ years and really enjoyed the large rear window for great views out the back of the trailer. With our new 27-5L the great viewing is on the side and actually has more window area than the previous trailer. I do like the shorter and lighter 27-5L (compared to the 29-5T). My truck and 5th wheel weight in at 20,000 lbs with 1/2 tank of fresh water. So the 5ers are heavy but well built.
        2012 Dodge Laramie, 2500 CTD, crew cab, Reese 16K Slider hitch

        2019 Arctic Fox 27-5L, 320w solar system, Trimetric SC-2030 Solar Charge Controller, Trimetric 2030 Battery Monitor, Magnum 400 inverter, TST 507 tire monitor
        2015 Arctic Fox 25-Y sold

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        • #5
          Welcome to the forum!

          Floor plan you like like I believe is the most important thing after a well built frame. W went from a SOB w big back window and a side kitchen that lacked counter space and storage for us. That led us to a rear kitchen SOB fifth wheel with big bedroom and 34’ length. Settled on our 27-5L which for us is as near perfect as any will be. Love the shorter length, smaller bedroom and larger living area than our previous rear kitchen.

          Good luck,
          Rolland & Judie, 2 Shelties, Cozmo & Brinkley

          2005 Chevy Silverado 3500, Duramax/Allison, Crew Cab LB 4x4, B&W Companion, 40 gal Transfer Flow Tank/Tool Box

          2016 AF 27-5L (SOLD 11/2019)

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          • #6
            What are you plans for using the trailer? Full time, short weekend trips or long excursions? If you go with Dave's recommendation on a one ton, you will have plenty of truck to pull most any Arctic Fox. We were completely new in 2016, I had never pulled any trailer of any kind so I was nervous about going with our 32-5m. If it would have been just me, I would have gone smaller. However, we soon realized that at 37' we really were not that big. The biggest issue for us is the height and with any AF 5th wheel you will be pushing the upper limits. The 32-5m has an incredible amount of storage space. We actually have empty areas and we live in our trailer for 6 months. The layout with windows on all sides was very important to us. We didn't want any wall fully blocked from our view. We have absolutely no regrets with our decision and if we had to buy another one, we would be right back in a 32-5m. That being said, we are in the minority here and there are many happy folks that own the smaller 5th wheels (but they really aren't that much smaller. )
            2016 Arctic Fox 32-5M, 300 watt Zamp Solar Kit, 30 Amp controller, 2 T105 Trojan 6 volts, 5.5 Onan LP Generator, 6pt leveling system, 2nd 13.5k A/C, Slide Toppers, Fireplace, King Bed, Central Vac. Hardwired Surge Guard Model 34560, rear view camera, clear entry door window,

            2016 Ford F-450 Lariat. B&W Companion Hitch. Remax Bed Roll Cover, Bed Carpet.

            Winter in Florida, traveling during the other seasons.

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            • #7
              Thanks for all the replies and warm welcome!

              As for our intended use, we will not be full-timing. This being our first trailer, we will start with several fairly local weekend trips until we get the hang of things. Eventually we would like to do some longer trips across the Central US and perhaps one day even as far as Canada and Alaska.

              As for tow vehicles, we are already looking into purchasing a later model DRW Diesel so we will be good lugging one of these beefy well-built AF trailers around.

              My wife and I are going to look at a really nice and clean 2004 27-5L today to see if I can live without the master bed slide.
              Proud Second Owner 2004 AF27-5L
              2018 Ram 3500 4x4 6.7 Cummins/Aisin/4.10 DRW

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Sasquatch View Post
                As for tow vehicles, we are already looking into purchasing a later model DRW Diesel so we will be good lugging one of these beefy well-built AF trailers around.
                I would advise you get one with an "exhaust brake"
                How they work
                2018 GMC 3500 SB diesel
                2017 Arctic fox 27-5l 50Amp 5.5 Gen, 4 6 volt, 450W solar,ARPrv,michelin xps,built in surge suppressor, Tank Heat Pads and 4 Point Leveling System

                My 27-5l Manual

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                • #9
                  Have you found the brochures for all years downloaded on this site? If not, click on Downloads on the top left bar under the NROA logo. A trailer with the same numerical designation can change over the years--especially the 5ers. Some got longer and interiors are tweaked as are weights. Best luck in finding a good used unit. If well kept, the older trailers could still provide a lot of service. Our 2002 is going strong but has probably only about 50K miles on it.
                  Linda & Dave (retired US Army) and Magic, the Yellow Lab Duck Dog
                  2002 Arctic Fox 25R, Yamaha 2400i, Les Schwab 105 6-volt batteries, Maxxis Tires, Torque Lift Steps
                  2017 RAM 2500 Bighorn Crew Cab 4x4, CTD, 8' Bed, Granite Crystal, new 7/1/17
                  2018 Prius IV, new December 2018

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                  • #10
                    This summer we bought a used 2015 27.5. We were looking on line at the model but living in Texas, did not have the opportunity to see one in person. When we found this one at at dealership close to us, we snapped it up. So far, we are in love with it. We came from a SOB 35 foot toy hauler and have found we don't miss it. Don't know if we got a deal or not, but is was in good condition and we paid around $24K for it. So far, we very pleased with our purchase.
                    Kevin and Brenda
                    2015 Ford SuperDuty DW Diesel
                    2015 AF 27.5L

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                    • #11
                      Without starting a new thread, I thought I should bring this one to a happy ending by sharing with all of you that I sealed the deal on a beautiful and lightly used 2004 27-5L in excellent condition.
                      I am still in the process of figuring everything out (in my yard) before I attempt my “maiden voyage”, which is already scheduled for the second weekend of Oct. @ Pyramid Lake, Nevada in search of a trophy-size Lahontan Cutthroat!
                      Thank you kindly for the input and advice, happy traveling.
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                      Proud Second Owner 2004 AF27-5L
                      2018 Ram 3500 4x4 6.7 Cummins/Aisin/4.10 DRW

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                      • #12
                        Congrats on finding a great rig, now go enjoy it.
                        2016 Ram 3500 Longhorn: 4X4, Crew Cab, LB, DRW, 6.7 Cummins/Aisin, 3.73, Auto Level Rear Air Suspension, Reese 20k Elite Hitch, Amp Bedstep 2, Aero 70 Gal Underbed Fuel Tank
                        2016 AF 27-5L: 10 Cu Ft Fridge, Thomas Payne Sofa w/air Mattress,15K AC, 2" Receiver, Victron Multiplus 3000 inverter with CCGX Color Control panel, BMV 712 Battery Monitor and Smart Solar MPPT 100|50 controller with 610W of Solar

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                        • #13
                          Congrats on the AF27-5L and welcome to the AF27-5L enclave!

                          Two suggestion when buying any used trailer:

                          1. Before you go anywhere, have the bearings repacked and brakes inspected.

                          2. Have all the seams re-caulked.

                          Doing those two things will give time. If there were any leaks, re-caulking would stop any further damage.

                          And repacking bearing is just a prudent safety check.

                          We enjoy the AF27-5L so much we bought 2 of them! One at a time LOL

                          Bill
                          Bill, Mary, and Scottie
                          2015 RAM 3500 Crew Cab, Long Bed, 6.7 Cummins/Aisin, SRW, Hensley BD-3 Hitch
                          2017 AF 27-5L
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                          • #14
                            We are still using a 2002 Fox with no structural problems. Your new 27-5 looks great! I like the nice, clean and simple graphics on it. Great choice of tow vehicle--you could pull two 27-5's with that one! Enjoy!
                            Linda & Dave (retired US Army) and Magic, the Yellow Lab Duck Dog
                            2002 Arctic Fox 25R, Yamaha 2400i, Les Schwab 105 6-volt batteries, Maxxis Tires, Torque Lift Steps
                            2017 RAM 2500 Bighorn Crew Cab 4x4, CTD, 8' Bed, Granite Crystal, new 7/1/17
                            2018 Prius IV, new December 2018

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                            • #15
                              We are on our second 27-5l also. The biggest reason for the update was I wanted to stand up in the bedroom, and I wanted to look at the tv straight on, instead of to the side. Neither were big deals, but just something I wanted before we retire.

                              Our previous 27-5l was 18 years old, and still in VERY good condition, but I kept the maintenance up to date.
                              2018 27-5L 4 point leveling, 30 amp, 320 watts of solar.
                              2000 F250
                              2000 27-5L sold after 8 great years.

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