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  • 29-5T pin weights

    My on again/off again search is back on and the 29-5T is again squarely in the crosshairs. Floor-plan, length, and weight are why this model. NW web site lists pin weight as 2373 and obviously based on empty weight for a "stock" trailer. Since no one has a "stock" one or travels empty, what are actual pin weights for one at GVW and what does the generator add to pin weight. As I recall the generator itself is around 275+-# and I figure it would add about 50% of that weight to the pin. Has anyone weighed one that yielded left/right side weights? Curious if the right side is significantly heavier than the left with the kitchen and propane on that side. My TV has a capacity of 4207# so I am in good shape there but wondering how much cushion I likely will have one the 51g aux tank is filled and B&W hitch installed.
    2007 Itasca Horizon, 2012 Wrangler "toad", 2015 GD Solitude (SOLD and awaiting replacement 29-5T???), 2017 Ram 3500

  • #2
    My measured Pin weight was around #2200. I assume that was due to carrying the Wine behind the axle! No generator either.
    2006 F250 Lariat 6.0 4X4, 2013 Arctic Fox 29-5T, Curt Q 20, Air Lifts, K&N Fresh Air, SCT Tuner

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Rogerracer View Post
      My measured Pin weight was around #2200. I assume that was due to carrying the Wine behind the axle! No generator either.
      Thanks, that must be one hell of a one cellar you have.
      2007 Itasca Horizon, 2012 Wrangler "toad", 2015 GD Solitude (SOLD and awaiting replacement 29-5T???), 2017 Ram 3500

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      • #4
        2435 is what is on the sticker in my 2018 29-5T
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        2018 Arctic fox 29-5T
        Alberta Canada
        Tow Truck-2019 3500HD Duramax Denali SRW Crew cab

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        • #5
          The max combined GVW on my 2019 3500 Denali diesel is 11500 and it weighs 8600 lbs with me and fuel, hitch and some tools in it so that leaves 2900 pounds left. So 2900 minus 2435 leaves 465 pounds which is 20% of added weight on trailer-or total cargo weight of 2325 pounds. That is a lot of extra crap- full fresh water tank is 900 pounds so 1425 pounds of bedding, dishes, food, golf clubs, clothes and what have you to remain legal with a full water tank. If you have a dually-even better
          Working towards livin' the dream...
          2018 Arctic fox 29-5T
          Alberta Canada
          Tow Truck-2019 3500HD Duramax Denali SRW Crew cab

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          • #6
            Is this simular to yours. Payload 3569 lbs
            2019 AF 27-5L Alumaguards Awnings all three, 3.6 Onan, Auto leveling, 160 Amp solar panel, WiFi, receiver hitch, etc...
            2007 Silverado 2500HD Classic CC/SB D/A
            EFILive, TranGo Jr. Firestone Air Bags, Rancho RS9000XL shocks.

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            • #7
              There is another sticker in that general area that will have the GVWR rating plus the front and rear axle rating. The VIN # should be there too. My 2019 3500 was bought because my 2017 2500 only had a GVWR of 10000 lbs. That truck weighed 8500 lbs(only 100 lbs less than the 3500). I was 1000 lbs overloaded with my 29-5T
              Working towards livin' the dream...
              2018 Arctic fox 29-5T
              Alberta Canada
              Tow Truck-2019 3500HD Duramax Denali SRW Crew cab

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              • #8
                Originally posted by lumpy5933 View Post
                2435 is what is on the sticker in my 2018 29-5T
                That weight is about 60# more than a typical bare bones from the factory, what installed options do you have that would have added weight to the pin? I figure the upgraded air conditioner adds nothing and slide awnings may subtract a bit. My Ram has a GVWR or 12,300 but I haven't weighed it yet, something I need to do.
                Last edited by chunker; 02-14-2019, 06:02 AM. Reason: Adding question
                2007 Itasca Horizon, 2012 Wrangler "toad", 2015 GD Solitude (SOLD and awaiting replacement 29-5T???), 2017 Ram 3500

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                • #9
                  Hopefully someone who has the generator will chime in with their pin weights based on a CAT weighing.
                  2007 Itasca Horizon, 2012 Wrangler "toad", 2015 GD Solitude (SOLD and awaiting replacement 29-5T???), 2017 Ram 3500

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by lumpy5933 View Post
                    The max combined GVW on my 2019 3500 Denali diesel is 11500 and it weighs 8600 lbs with me and fuel, hitch and some tools in it so that leaves 2900 pounds left. So 2900 minus 2435 leaves 465 pounds which is 20% of added weight on trailer-or total cargo weight of 2325 pounds. That is a lot of extra crap- full fresh water tank is 900 pounds so 1425 pounds of bedding, dishes, food, golf clubs, clothes and what have you to remain legal with a full water tank. If you have a dually-even better
                    Not sure you can apply the 20% in that case. Pin weight changes will be based on where the weight is added. Example, a washer/dryer is located directly over the pin and will have a much larger change than 20% of the installed weight. The basement compartment is roughly in the middle of the trailer section between the axles and pin and "should" change weights by about 50%. Rogerracers "wine cellar" removes pin weight based on location behind the axles.

                    I spent nearly half a century flying helicopters and weight and balance is a very critical thing to successful takeoff and landing. You might be OK in weight but putting it in the wrong location can be very bad. Fortunately RV loading isn't as sensitive about that but it can and will have adverse effect on weight ratings and handling.
                    Last edited by chunker; 02-14-2019, 06:19 AM. Reason: Adding: Another example is the trailer hitch. Assuming (yes dangerous thing) that it's a real trailer hitch and not a bike carrier, it may have a tow rating of 3500 with 350# tongue weight. Putting a
                    2007 Itasca Horizon, 2012 Wrangler "toad", 2015 GD Solitude (SOLD and awaiting replacement 29-5T???), 2017 Ram 3500

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                    • #11
                      Apparently my edit was too long. Putting a 3500# trailer back there will change the pin weight by an undetermined amount. I say undetermined because the hitch is closer to the axles, pivot point, than the pin. The weight shift won't be 1:1. Weight and balance is a complicated thing.
                      2007 Itasca Horizon, 2012 Wrangler "toad", 2015 GD Solitude (SOLD and awaiting replacement 29-5T???), 2017 Ram 3500

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                      • #12
                        My 29-5t is the csa certified model, has the large water heater, hide a bed sofa, king size bed. Thats 60 pounds I would think
                        Working towards livin' the dream...
                        2018 Arctic fox 29-5T
                        Alberta Canada
                        Tow Truck-2019 3500HD Duramax Denali SRW Crew cab

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                        • #13
                          Chunker-going back a couple of posts-regarding the CAT weight-if you do a search on the entire forum, there is an old posting and dialogue that has CAT weight print out of a 29-5 T on a 3/4 ton chev with duramax and I think the trailer was equipped with a generator... That print out had a steer axle weight of 4900 lb, drive axle of 6040 and trailer axle of 10260. My 3/4 ton empty had a rear axle weight of 3586 which would mean the pin weight was 2454 on that trailer. If it does not have a generator you would be in the 2525 range for pin weight if you put it up front.(50% for front weight placement as stated above using 150 lb)
                          Working towards livin' the dream...
                          2018 Arctic fox 29-5T
                          Alberta Canada
                          Tow Truck-2019 3500HD Duramax Denali SRW Crew cab

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                          • #14
                            My 2014 29-5T without onboard generator has 3050 lbs pin weight. Trailer axle weight is right at 11,000 lbs. Truck rear axle is 6850 lbs. That is also only having about 20 gallons of water in the fresh water tank.
                            Rich

                            2016 Chevrolet 3500HD LT Dually 4x4 DMax/Allison, B&W RVK 3700, Extreme Air Onboard Air Compressor
                            2014 Arctic Fox 29 5T, TST 507 Tire Pressure Monitor, Honda 2000i Generator, Sailun S637 G Tires

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by CumminsDrivr View Post
                              My 2014 29-5T without onboard generator has 3050 lbs pin weight. Trailer axle weight is right at 11,000 lbs. Truck rear axle is 6850 lbs. That is also only having about 20 gallons of water in the fresh water tank.
                              I'm going to presume you have a good bit of stuff in the basement storage. That figure is right close to the 20% of GVWR for the trailer.
                              2007 Itasca Horizon, 2012 Wrangler "toad", 2015 GD Solitude (SOLD and awaiting replacement 29-5T???), 2017 Ram 3500

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