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  • Needles Highway and 3500 Dually Crew Cab

    Has anyone driven the Needles Highway with a DRW truck? Any place in South Dakota/Wyoming to stay away from with or without towing our 27-5L?

    Also, we are heading from Hill City, SD over to Cody and was wondering the best route pulling our 27-5L. Any words of wisdom? We're from the East Coast and this is our first ever drive out West, not to mention our first real trip with a 5th wheel.

    We are staying four days in Hill City and plan on visiting/seeing as much as possible in the area. Then leaving to stay a few days in Cody before heading to Fishing Bridge in Yellowstone for five days, then down to Coulter Bay for two days before going into Jackson for a stay and then a stay in Cheyenne before heading back home. We're leaving July 4th arriving back home August 2nd. We are so excited to go other than having to leave our fur babies at home.

    Many thanks!
    Preston & Teresa
    Traveling dogs: Jerrica and Riley; Stay at home watch cats: Grayboy, Blackie and Magic
    2018 Arctic Fox 27-5L with Slide Out Toppers; Alumaguard Main Awning, 15K Low Pro Air Conditioner; Holding Tank Heat Pads; Fan Vent w/Remote/Tstat/Rain Sensor - Bedroom; 50 Amp Service; 4 Point Leveling System; Cross-stitch sofa; 2 " Receiver.


    2015 Silverado 3500 DRW Diesel

  • #2
    The highways, roads, and streets in the west are usually wide open spaces. SD offers some beautiful scenery in the Black Hills. So does WY. Also a lot of barren ranch and farm land and open space. If you travel the interstates or major US and state highways you can generally go anywhere you want dually or no dually. You can ask locally about some of the local back road pavement being rough.
    Harvey Barlow
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    • #3
      Needles Highway... We went on it last year with our srw GMC 2500HD and there was one tunnel that our extended out towing mirrors barely cleared. I'd say if your dually wheels are within how far your mirrors extend you should be fine. I imagine the people at the campground might have better info about that road.
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      • #4
        Your best route is Hwy 16 from Buffalo to Worland then up to Greybull and then to Cody. It is steep over the Big Horns but better than Hwy 14 from Sheridan. DO NOT take 14A to Lovell. The descent is steep and long. It is called the "Oh My God Hill" I assume you have exhaust brakes. If not I'd suggest going to Billings and down to Cody. Relatively level terrain. Either way over the Big Horns is beautiful!
        Glen & Linda
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        • #5
          If you are comfortable towing in the East you will definitely be good in the West. We have had westerners do their upmost to convince us a road was all but impassable. Many think if is not at least 22' of pavement with guardrails on both sides it is a cattle path. The mountains are taller but the Appalachians are much more challenging. Avoid the interstates certainly, don't drive out of you way to get to an interstate. Couldn't believe the roads we were warned of. Glad I chose to use my own judgment.
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          • #6
            X2 to Woods. The only one to avoid is where Hwy 14 splits with 14A going to Lovell. Hwy14A has 10 miles of 10% grade followed by 4 miles of 8% grade. There are plenty of steep and winding grades in the east but none that long and steep that I know of.
            Glen & Linda
            2018 27-5L Arctic Fox,
            2013 GMC Sierra 2500HD D/A 4X4 Ext Cab
            Anderson Ultimate 5th wheel hitch
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            • #7
              Thank you everyone! We'll take Buffalo - Worland - Greybull route. I sure don't want to experience the "Oh My God" hill. I have too much of that on flat ground with my husband's driving. Ha!
              Good to know that the West is so open and us Easterners shouldn't have a problem. We'll see. I'll still be constantly praying I'm sure! My husband doesn't think we'll have a problem with the tunnels so we're going to try it. Can't wait!
              Preston & Teresa
              Traveling dogs: Jerrica and Riley; Stay at home watch cats: Grayboy, Blackie and Magic
              2018 Arctic Fox 27-5L with Slide Out Toppers; Alumaguard Main Awning, 15K Low Pro Air Conditioner; Holding Tank Heat Pads; Fan Vent w/Remote/Tstat/Rain Sensor - Bedroom; 50 Amp Service; 4 Point Leveling System; Cross-stitch sofa; 2 " Receiver.


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              • #8
                Originally posted by GIandlj View Post
                X2 to Woods. The only one to avoid is where Hwy 14 splits with 14A going to Lovell. Hwy14A has 10 miles of 10% grade followed by 4 miles of 8% grade. There are plenty of steep and winding grades in the east but none that long and steep that I know of.
                Those grades can provide spectacular scenery. Lock down in a lower gear for increased rpm (1200-1400) and set the cruse control at a comfortable pace and enjoy the scenery. Do leave the engine running to cool when stopping for photos. No big deal. Have fun, enjoy.

                Woods
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                • #9
                  • Hood Tunnel: 10 feet, 6 inches wide; 11 feet, 3 inches high
                  • Needles Eye Tunnel: 8 feet, 4 inches wide; 12 feet high
                  • Iron Creek Tunnel: 9 feet wide; 12 feet, 3 inches high

                  http://www.truckcamperadventure.com/...edles-highway/
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ramduk View Post
                    • Hood Tunnel: 10 feet, 6 inches wide; 11 feet, 3 inches high
                    • Needles Eye Tunnel: 8 feet, 4 inches wide; 12 feet high
                    • Iron Creek Tunnel: 9 feet wide; 12 feet, 3 inches high

                    http://www.truckcamperadventure.com/...edles-highway/
                    I wouldn’t be pulling my 27-5L though these tunnels based on the dimensions let alone after looking a the photos. We are 13’4” at the highest point.

                    A good resource i use is the Montain West and East directory. I keep it on the iPad, you can purchase only the West or East, or both. Gives good grade information and warnings for low clearances.
                    Rolland & Judie, 2 Shelties, Cozmo & Brinkley

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ramduk View Post
                      • Hood Tunnel: 10 feet, 6 inches wide; 11 feet, 3 inches high
                      • Needles Eye Tunnel: 8 feet, 4 inches wide; 12 feet high
                      • Iron Creek Tunnel: 9 feet wide; 12 feet, 3 inches high

                      http://www.truckcamperadventure.com/...edles-highway/
                      Nice catch!!! What a beautiful area though. Good reminder to read the suggestions and then look down to see what they are pulling. For folks with pull behind's, their height constrants are much different and unintentionally don't realize us in the Arctic Fox 5th Wheel series are at 13'6" (or darn near close to that).
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                      • #12
                        ramduk . Thanks for the link by the way. I bookmarked it for a future trip. In reading through the article, it looks like you can camp nearby and take the 14 mile journey on the hwy in the truck. The views look spectacular.
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                        • #13
                          In the past we have stayed in the State Park and toured the area in my truck which is a 2012 Ram 3500 SRW. No problems on the Needles Hwy or the other area's. The state parks are quite popular so will require reservations sometime ahead. There are also Forest Service and plenty of private place to stay. We stayed at Stockade Lake near Custer which gave us easy access to all area's of the park, Mt. Rushmore, Needles, and the Caves Nathional parks. It has become one of our favorite area's.......don't go during the Sturgis MC week unless you love motorcycles. They are everywhere and it gets pretty crowded. Sturgis is a zoo at that time and the area is flooded with touring bikes.
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                          • #14
                            Needles Highway: You said you are staying in Hill City so you definitely want to get over to Sylvan Lake, which is just beautiful, and where many of the best hikes start from. Of course you can't tow through any of the tunnels. I don't think you would have any trouble with the tunnel between Hill City and Sylvan lake with just your truck although I didn't do it(the one just NW of the lake). The two tunnels E / SE of the lake are too tight for me and I wouldn't risk your dually... Especially on the first tunnel after the lake. I always follow the rule that the mirrors must clear for the duallys to clear, even though there is a slight bit more slop. If you don't want to do any tunnels you can go down to Custer and then go north on 89. If parking is crowded at the lake then keep going around the lake and you will find a large dirt parking lot that is right at the trailhead for Black Elk Peak (formerly Harney Peak). There are also a couple other hikes from there including the Sunday Gulch Trail which is beautiful but don't do it if it is Harley season or all you will hear is the roar from the bikers. If you do Sunday Gulch then I like it best going clockwise so you end up climbing out of the canyon through the water at the end.

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                            Here's a link to the a Black Hills map with the tunnels shown.

                            Hill City to Cody: The route I would do is Hill City..Custer.16.Moorcroft.90.Buffalo.16.Worland.Gr eybull.Cody. Once you leave the Black Hills that is some boring driving until you hit the Bighorns.

                            When will you be in Jackson area? We will be in Coulter Bay 27July to 03Aug and are then heading up to Montana in the Absarokas for 10 days.
                            Steve and Shelley. Minnesota
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                            • #15
                              That's great information, thanks. We'll be in Jackson just before you get there Steve. Darn! From July 22 leaving on the 26 for Cheyenne. Leaving Cheyenne on the 29 to head home.

                              We're on the road now, I'm using my phone to reply. Today was our first day and six miles from home we realized we left our EZPass for tolls and my husband left his money! We stopped and had my sister bring them to us! Then about 1.5 hours into the trip, thanks to rough roads due to road work, we hit a big bump and the rear tire on my bike came out of the tray! Long story short. Bike is okay and are now properly secured! Thank heavens for the rearview camera.

                              I see now you said you'd be in Colter Bay. We'll be there July 20-22.
                              Preston & Teresa
                              Traveling dogs: Jerrica and Riley; Stay at home watch cats: Grayboy, Blackie and Magic
                              2018 Arctic Fox 27-5L with Slide Out Toppers; Alumaguard Main Awning, 15K Low Pro Air Conditioner; Holding Tank Heat Pads; Fan Vent w/Remote/Tstat/Rain Sensor - Bedroom; 50 Amp Service; 4 Point Leveling System; Cross-stitch sofa; 2 " Receiver.


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